Hi
Does anyone know anything about this incident in Norway?
Trying to find out the background to the incident and any other details or even if its true
It was passed onto me by a contractor
Thanks
Penfold
Hand Gel fire
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Re: Hand Gel fire
We got the very same safety alert / lessons learned document passed to us from our Client who received it from their chemicals supplier. Other than what was included in the document, I don't have any further information though.
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Re: Hand Gel fire
WHO have safety advice for alcohol hand gels
Its mainly aimed at health care premises which traditionally would be the main users of gel, but in the new normal its everywhere and bound to be stacked in plant rooms and electricity intake cupboards
The guidance covers storage, use and installation of hand washing points. A good guide from a trusted source.
https://www.who.int/gpsc/tools/faqs/abhr2/en/
Its mainly aimed at health care premises which traditionally would be the main users of gel, but in the new normal its everywhere and bound to be stacked in plant rooms and electricity intake cupboards
The guidance covers storage, use and installation of hand washing points. A good guide from a trusted source.
https://www.who.int/gpsc/tools/faqs/abhr2/en/
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Re: Hand Gel fire
Although not the same recirculated 'incident' as this one: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/safety-moment/
I sense a similarity. On same lines as the mid-2000 posters with car on fire as a warning to not use a mobile phone seen at some fuel stations.
I sense a similarity. On same lines as the mid-2000 posters with car on fire as a warning to not use a mobile phone seen at some fuel stations.
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Re: Hand Gel fire
Thanks all, and interesting read safetylady
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Re: Hand Gel fire
Hi Guys,
I received this today Its a modification of the earlier one but this time backed by some big names
I also emailed the contact listed at got a reply stating it was genuine, please don't all email the guy, if you want proof I'll screenshot his answer.
Ant yet I still don't believe it.
Anyone heard any more about it
TIA
Siblo
PS. a quick google finds nothing more than some car fires because people leave the bottles in cars, which then go on to state it shouldn't happen until it reaches 700 degrees, which the inside of a car doesn't, unless it's actually already on fire.
I received this today Its a modification of the earlier one but this time backed by some big names
I also emailed the contact listed at got a reply stating it was genuine, please don't all email the guy, if you want proof I'll screenshot his answer.
Ant yet I still don't believe it.
Anyone heard any more about it
TIA
Siblo
PS. a quick google finds nothing more than some car fires because people leave the bottles in cars, which then go on to state it shouldn't happen until it reaches 700 degrees, which the inside of a car doesn't, unless it's actually already on fire.
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Re: Hand Gel fire
Whether the Highways Agency report is true or not, the risk of fire when using sanitisers often very rich in alcohol is very real.
The World Health Organisation have issued advice to heal care providers (see my post above) that states:
Allow the handrub to dry: Staff should be advised to let their hands dry and the vapours disperse after using alcohol handrub, which minimises these risks. The How to Handrub posters state clearly: "once dry, your hands are safe"
Warm hands will evaporate the alcohol quickly, but of course there has been a change in behaviour as more people carry the gel with them and apply it at the workplace before immediately getting back to work - rather than in a washrooms, where the short walk back to the worksite gives time for evaporation
Instead of querying the authenticity specific accidents to see if they are true (albeit, never a bad thing to do), I would suggest that in industries or workplaces where static or other high energy ignition sources are likely, some immediate comms be issued in relation to the risk of ignition and the fact its an invisible flame
The World Health Organisation have issued advice to heal care providers (see my post above) that states:
Allow the handrub to dry: Staff should be advised to let their hands dry and the vapours disperse after using alcohol handrub, which minimises these risks. The How to Handrub posters state clearly: "once dry, your hands are safe"
Warm hands will evaporate the alcohol quickly, but of course there has been a change in behaviour as more people carry the gel with them and apply it at the workplace before immediately getting back to work - rather than in a washrooms, where the short walk back to the worksite gives time for evaporation
Instead of querying the authenticity specific accidents to see if they are true (albeit, never a bad thing to do), I would suggest that in industries or workplaces where static or other high energy ignition sources are likely, some immediate comms be issued in relation to the risk of ignition and the fact its an invisible flame
