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Safe? Not so safe?

Post by Alexis » Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:13 pm

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Re: Safe? Not so safe?

Post by stephen1974 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:22 am

You cant tell from thos photos. Doesn't look great but that doesnt mean its not safe. Still, I bet those that certified it will have clecnhed buttchecks from now until january.

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Re: Safe? Not so safe?

Post by WillPool » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:02 am

As Stephen says hard to tell from a 'selection' of photos.

If it has been engineered and built to the standard then what is the issue?? I would expect the scaffolding company to keep records of the design and inspections throughout the build and after until dismantling. Will the local authority (Council) inspect as well, do they have a competent person in the area of scaffolding, to me that would be the bigger issue, if you look at the history in Scotland of local authority school builds there have been issues as the council no longer employs Clerk of Works to oversee/inspect ongoing or completed works.

It is more than likely, those taking the pictures and displaying on Social Media have no understanding of Scaffolding or Health & Safety, Planning or Building Regulations and just fire these pictures blindly into the internet void that I classify as social media.

No-one has given the scaffolding contractor any say in this although Underbelly (not the scaffolding contractor) have stated safety is their priority etc etc. Doesnt help their case that they didnt have planning/build approval (according to the papers)

Social Media is and can be a great tool but most of the stuff that goes viral is (in my opinion) usually blown out of proportion and context by the generation of keyboard warriors.

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Post by danwel » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:21 am

Am i right in saying that there is outrage due to scaffold standards being placed on wood and wooden sleepers ? I wouldn't like to comment as it is not my place to say from a picture as to what is safe and what is not but the use of scaffold boards or timber in general is a widely accepted practice as this helps to spread the load so there is no point loading especially when used certain types of grating or inclines or in this case case grass verge.
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Post by stephen1974 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:23 am

I dont think it was because they were placed on wood, but placed on wood at a 45' angle on slippery mud making it look like the whole thing will go crashing down the slope.


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Post by witsd » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:46 pm

My concern is whether the grass verge will remain solid enough to prevent the board from slipping, particularly if we have a wet Christmas rather than a snowy one. Edinburgh isn't quite as soggy as my side of the country, but it is Scotland...
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Post by Alexis » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:29 pm

Just been on the local news. No planning permission given so it is all having to be moved.
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Post by stephen1974 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:50 pm

Running scared thats what that is.

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Re: Safe? Not so safe?

Post by Messy » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:58 pm

WillPool wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:02 am
As Stephen says hard to tell from a 'selection' of photos.


It is more than likely, those taking the pictures and displaying on Social Media have no understanding of Scaffolding or Health & Safety, Planning or Building Regulations and just fire these pictures blindly into the internet void that I classify as social media.
I recall the amatuer residents of Grenfell flagging up concerns about the works being carried out in their block. Those concerns were dismissed as over anxious residents .

I have a friend who lives in a new tower block who is trying to get the builders to take her complaints seriously. I have tried to help her with technical reports but the arrogance of the developers is outstanding

This is an area where social media can do good. My friend cant resort to publicising her block as she intends to sell in the future and doubts if she will get much ofher £700,000 investment back

This scaffolding and their 45 degree bases would of raised concerns with me too so I am pleased social media has been used successfully here

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Re: Safe? Not so safe?

Post by danwel » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:01 pm

i'd agree with some of the comments here, i think you can actually use social media to get your points across because a lot of companies simply don't want the bad press or bad reputation and respond better when it is done this way. I've seen ti countless times where emails and chats are disregarded but the moment a social media post goes live you get a very different response.
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Re: Safe? Not so safe?

Post by Alexis » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:13 pm

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