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Another fire risk assessor prosecuted

Post by hammer1 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:15 pm

Another prosecution on a fire risk assessor, how many is that now? 3 or 4 I think

In summing up this case, the judge said that competence is knowing when you yourself aren’t able to do something – and that risk assessors should recognise the limits of their experience and expertise.

Area manager Steve Helps, said, “This verdict should serve as a stark warning to building owners that people carrying out fire risk assessments should be competent and able to properly consider all of the risks within buildings, particular where people’s lives could be placed at risk.

“The sentence in this case proves that people will rightly be held to account if risk assessments are found to be insufficient.”



https://www.fsmatters.com/Fire-risk-assessor-prosecuted

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https://www.syfire.gov.uk/fire-safety-w ... sentenced/
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Re: Another fire risk assessor prosecuted

Post by hammer1 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:20 pm

Also as not being the RP, I presume he got found guilty via Article 5, 3?
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Re: Another fire risk assessor prosecuted

Post by bernicarey » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:20 am

Linking to South Yorks site for the details of the assessor, it gives the same info as the FSM link:
http://www.syfire.gov.uk/fire-service-i ... rosecuted/

I think you're right about s5(3), because of what it says in s5(4)
(4) Where a person has, by virtue of any contract or tenancy, an obligation of any extent in relation to

(a)the maintenance or repair of any premises, including anything in or on premises; or

(b)the safety of any premises,

that person is to be treated, for the purposes of paragraph (3), as being a person who has control of the premises to the extent that his obligation so extends.
I think all of us read these cases and it brings an element of doubt to our minds, but then you read just how poor these premises are and you think, 'Well I'd have spotted that'.
the service identified a number of serious fire safety concerns. These included the fact that there was poor fire separation between flats and the corridor escape route at the time that tenants moved in to the property. Dust covers had been left on smoke detectors and a roller shutter door which could have been used as an escape route in the event of a fire was found to be inadequate.

When I was doing site inspections last year on a building conversion to student rooms, although it wasn't in my remit as such, I repeatedly documented concerns about poorly fitted Fire Doors to the student rooms as the project neared it's end.
The answer I was given was always that it would be corrected on the Snagging works. :shock:
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Re: Another fire risk assessor prosecuted

Post by witsd » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:37 pm

We often think that when we have completed our study of one we know all about two, because 'two' is 'one and one.' We forget that we still have to make a study of 'and.'

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