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Fire Doors

Post by markholly » Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:48 pm

Hello,

I hope someone could help me on this. We have around 233 venues around the UK each obviously have fire doors in them which are checked by venue staff monthly for their operation/strips intact etc and then a annual service by a outside company.

The company has stated that due to BS 9999 these fire doors should be tested every 6 months instead of annually.

Can anyone shine some light on this as being honest I thought what we are currently doing is enough.

Thanks

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Re: Fire Doors

Post by Messy » Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:40 pm

Tested? Not inspected?

It may be semantics but I would want to know which bit of 9999 is being referred to. Sadly it's a bit weighty for me to lug a copy on the train, but I would want a reference or rationale

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Re: Fire Doors

Post by bernicarey » Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:58 pm

Why are you having an external company doing an 'annual service' of Fire Doors?

Do they include automatic release systems etc, or are they just fire doors?

Have you looked at the requirements of BS9999 yourself?

Yes, there is a requirement for a 6 monthly inspection, but it seems to me that your staff are already potentially meeting that requirement in their monthly checks....

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Re: Fire Doors

Post by witsd » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:52 pm

As long as you are recording your monthly checks clearly, I don't see how doing additional annual / six-monthly checks adds any value.

It doesn't take a degree in rocket science to identify a missing intumescent strip, a large gap, or note that the door is failing to self-close.

Unless these doors are connected to the fire alarm system and swing shut upon activation (which can be easily checked during fire alarm tests), I don't see what the external company would be doing that your staff wouldn't.
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