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witsd wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:07 am At this point it's still a glorified grammar-check, and most of the time I disagree with those things. I'd prefer that my work sounds like something I would actually say.
Understand completely, also part of my own beliefs.

As I work in the Middle East, I do see benefits. Some people that don't speak English as their first language, can write what they think is right into Chat GPT (or equivalent) and it will assist them in getting the grammar right.

I have one Engineer who writes in his native tongue (Arabic) and then has chat GPT translate it, then analyse the meaning and grammar. He states that it has helped him understand more about the language, which is fine as he is a diligent guy.

However for every 1 diligent guy there is probably a ration (say 100) of lazy folks who will use it without learning and be reliant on the AI. I am against that.

Also approaching dinosaur age, I am always onto my grandkids to spell words correctly, not text speak, and to learn how words are spelled properly, but was promptly put in my place by the eldest grand-daughter (14, going on 25). We don't use blackboards and chalk anymore, we have computers to check spelling and I will use it. :lol:

I think with everything, we need to find the correct balance.

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I think the dangers of AI may be advertising themselves in this very thread. :D
We often think that when we have completed our study of one we know all about two, because 'two' is 'one and one.' We forget that we still have to make a study of 'and.'
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witsd wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:34 pm I think the dangers of AI may be advertising themselves in this very thread. :D
My thoughts too lol and on another.
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grim72 wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 2:46 pm
witsd wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:34 pm I think the dangers of AI may be advertising themselves in this very thread. :D
My thoughts too lol and on another.
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Ive been using this with good results, you get a few free RA's before you need to pay but its only 8 quid a month

https://lifeguardai.co.uk/
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WarrenDevon wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:07 pm Ive been using this with good results, you get a few free RA's before you need to pay but its only 8 quid a month

https://lifeguardai.co.uk/
I can understand using something like that as a starting point, but how many companies are going to use them in lieu of an actual competent member of staff / contractor?

In a ghoulish kind of a way, I'm looking forward to the first court cases where "an AI did it" is the defence (or the prosecution?!)
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I tend to use AI as a starting point.

Stick in what you need e.g write a health and safety policy, and it usually gives you a good example, but I do need to alter parts of anything I get to make it suit my company.

I cant see it replacing us 'competent' H&S professionals anytime soon, but it may assist with our workload and the time is takes to do paperwork.
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I have used AI to create short awareness training courses on certain subjects. I put in the brief, so for example "create an awareness training course on the uk noise at work regulations". The AI then comes up with a short course and set of slides etc. I then go through and check it making sure that it only refers to the correct UK Legislation etc and check that I'm happy with any pictures, graphics or other media it uses.

I can then get an awareness course put together on most subjects in a pretty short space of time.
So when the whole world is safe..............what are we going to do then?
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Keith1983 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:44 pm I have used AI to create short awareness training courses on certain subjects. I put in the brief, so for example "create an awareness training course on the uk noise at work regulations". The AI then comes up with a short course and set of slides etc. I then go through and check it making sure that it only refers to the correct UK Legislation etc and check that I'm happy with any pictures, graphics or other media it uses.

I can then get an awareness course put together on most subjects in a pretty short space of time.
How do you deal with the issue of potentially using copyrighted material?

Or does it not really matter as you aren't using it for commercial purposes?
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An interesting question witsd - must admit I assumed that AI generated info would not be copyright protected but turns out I'm wrong (not for the first time). There is a good summary I found at https://www.lawbite.co.uk/resources/blog/ai-copyright which explains how/why it "might" be.
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grim72 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:23 pm An interesting question witsd - must admit I assumed that AI generated info would not be copyright protected but turns out I'm wrong (not for the first time). There is a good summary I found at https://www.lawbite.co.uk/resources/blog/ai-copyright which explains how/why it "might" be.
I know that a number of AI companies have been trying to argue that their... 'constructions' are exempt from copyright issues because of 'reasons'.

I don't think any of these cases have gone to court yet, but I believe that quite a few are on their way. It'll be interesting to see what happens at that point, but until then I would err on the side of caution.

Unless of course you are only using the products in a very limited, internal fashion - I'm sure we've all used YouTube videos of potentially copyrighted material for internal training purposes, but if you are selling a training package... hmm.

Edit: Although perhaps we are misunderstanding each other - I'm suggesting that there may be a copyright associated with the sources that the AI programs use, not that the AI company may own the output of their bots.
We often think that when we have completed our study of one we know all about two, because 'two' is 'one and one.' We forget that we still have to make a study of 'and.'
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