Work at Height query
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Work at Height query
Are safety belts permissible for working at height i.e. in a scissor lift, or should a full harness and fall restraint lanyard used?
I have trawled through the Work at Height Regulations 2005 but cannot find anything definitive.
Many thanks.
I have trawled through the Work at Height Regulations 2005 but cannot find anything definitive.
Many thanks.
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Re: Work at Height query
You don't need any harness or belt in a scissor lift. The HSE has always taken the view that a simple Up/Down motion does not require securing into the equipment.Are safety belts permissible for working at height i.e. in a scissor lift,
See here: http://www.hse.gov.uk/foi/internalops/o ... 314_20.htm
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Generally, Harnesses are requires in 'Boom' equipments due to the likelihood of bounce throwing someone out.3 It does not cover scissors lifts, though the principles for preventing overturns and failures are the same but fall protection equipment is not required for normal operation other than in exceptional circumstances.
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Re: Work at Height query
A risk assessment will determine whether or not a restraint lanyard and harness should be used.
The likelihood, is not, as Berni said, but it really will depend on the task to be done and the environment...
The likelihood, is not, as Berni said, but it really will depend on the task to be done and the environment...
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Re: Work at Height query
Thanks for the replies. I gave a bad example of the scissor lift. What I want to know is, can a safety belt with lanyard be used when working at height, or should a full harness be worn? I can't find anything definitive online.
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Re: Work at Height query
See that link I provided above and follow it through to the pdf document, page 3 the section "Falling From the Platform".stretch3144 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:37 pm Thanks for the replies. I gave a bad example of the scissor lift. What I want to know is, can a safety belt with lanyard be used when working at height, or should a full harness be worn? I can't find anything definitive online.
Your own question illustrates part of the problem. We are not proscriptive in most of our H&S Legislation, unlike some other nations, so it all comes down to your Risk assessment.
You have asked 'should a full harness be worn' and the answer is that in many cases it 'should', not 'must' but 'should'.
It's all down to the circumstances of use, but in most cases the answer is Yes.
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Indeed he is stretch. Why not give his like button a wee click.
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Re: Work at Height query
To get a bit of my personal perspective on this, a belt may be acceptable in a situation whereby the equipment is used to prevent the user reaching the danger zone, however I personally wouldn't see that a belt would be suitable if using as fall arrest.
So when the whole world is safe..............what are we going to do then?
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Keith, a belt wouldn't be 'fall arrest', it would be 'fall restraint'.
Two different concepts that often get confused. Restraint doesn't need a rescue plan, because they can't fall and be hanging there.
Fall Restraint stops you falling.
Fall Arrest stops you hitting the ground.