Hi
We have a basement (approx. 80sqm) which is currently unused however is being converted for use of a kitchen and function room in our office building.
The building is quite old (1800's) and has no sprinkler system.
There is currently no smoke vents in the basement - other buildings nearby have the glazed pavement smoke vents which can be smashed, but we dont have these (reason unknown).
Looking at ADB Vol 2. am I right in thinking that it must have a natural smoke extraction system if no sprinkler fitted? Or would it be accepted that a mechanical extraction system be fitted if it is not possible to install natural smoke vents?
Any guidance much appreciated!
Basement smoke vents / extraction
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Re: Basement smoke vents / extraction
I know you are only looking from a fire perspective right now but if you are putting a kitchen in you also need to look at ventiliation else you will end up with a very hot kitchen and probably the formation of condensation, which in turn can be a fire hazard.
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Re: Basement smoke vents / extraction
Yes, we have a ventilation system being installed too - exactly right, because of the risk of condensation mainly.
But we didn't know if we also needed to install a smoke vent system of some fashion?
But we didn't know if we also needed to install a smoke vent system of some fashion?
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Re: Basement smoke vents / extraction
Standard response warning.
What does the FRA say?
Seriously though. I have to admit that I'm not overly familiar with the BS or any building regs on this, but I'd assume that they are full of 'where necessary' caveats, so honestly, I would be tempted to default to that.
Or are you doing the FRA yourselves?
What does the FRA say?
Seriously though. I have to admit that I'm not overly familiar with the BS or any building regs on this, but I'd assume that they are full of 'where necessary' caveats, so honestly, I would be tempted to default to that.
Or are you doing the FRA yourselves?
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Re: Basement smoke vents / extraction
Is this info required for a FRA or because there is significant building works planned?
I ask as ADB is really all about new builds or significant alterations. It is a useful guide when conducting a FRA but its provision is not necessarily designed - or required to be applied retrospectively unless a significant change to the building is planned
Then there is the historic building element to this. Sometimes it's not possible to apply the published guidance in ADB in an old building. Inward opening final exit doors, or a church with a capacity of 200 with one narrow 14c door are example of this issue with ADB.
I ask as ADB is really all about new builds or significant alterations. It is a useful guide when conducting a FRA but its provision is not necessarily designed - or required to be applied retrospectively unless a significant change to the building is planned
Then there is the historic building element to this. Sometimes it's not possible to apply the published guidance in ADB in an old building. Inward opening final exit doors, or a church with a capacity of 200 with one narrow 14c door are example of this issue with ADB.
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Re: Basement smoke vents / extraction
Approved Document B suggests that where a basement is over 3m deep and a floor area over 200m2, then smoke ventilation should be provided. Depending upon depth, it doesn't appear that natural ventilation is required.
As suggested by Messy, ADB is for new builds and significant alternations, but if you comply with ADB, then your probably okay.
As suggested by Messy, ADB is for new builds and significant alternations, but if you comply with ADB, then your probably okay.