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RIDDOR - who reports?

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Hi all,
Probably an oldy in terms a question but as I luckily don't deal with many RIDDORS and wanted to check.

a guy has gone over on his ankle on one of our sites - turns out to be fractured (so a RIDDOR) , he works for a sub-contractor and was working on site for us , but under supervision of the sub-contractor company directly on site, but we are the PC.

I have always assumed that it was the employer of the person who needed to report to RIDDOR.

HSE website seems to say , in a loose way that it is the premises owner?

We are of course undertaking a full investigation for lessons learnt etc.

who reports to RIDDOR?

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Re: RIDDOR - who reports?

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If a member of the public walks into your workplace, gets smacked on the head and drops down dead, you guys would have to ensure a report is completed. When you think about that scenario, it doesn't really make sense that a contractor would be someone else's responsibility!

Certainly, their manager is going to have more information on them being off work, but you guys should have far more detail on the nature of the accident, so the majority of the responsibility remains on you.
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Post by Juan Carlos »

As far as I know, it doesn't matter who reports to RIDDOR. it all depends on the initial agreement you had with sub-contractors at the start of the project. The law doesn't stipulate it has to be you or them, it just needs to be done. Now, if I was the PC on site, I would insist that this is done by myself to ensure I have a good handle on it.
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My understanding is that if it is an employee of a company you have contracted to do the work, then their employer should do the report. If the contractor is self employed, you should do the report.
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I’m with Stephen on this. I have had to report in the past (as a subcontractor) and the main contractor couldn’t have been any further from the reporting responsibility. It will generally be laid out in contract documents that the employer makes the report with copies provided to the MC within x number of hours.

My experience only of the scenario.
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Does it even really matter though?

I feel like more time is spent by people trying to work out the minutia of RIDDOR rules than it would take to just submit a report. I would think that it's far better that the HSE get two duplicate reports promptly than getting one late.

People seem to be reluctant to attract the HSE's attention, which – whilst understandable – really isn't that likely to lead to anything negative, and certainly shouldn't be the priority.
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Re: RIDDOR - who reports?

Post by safetygal »

We had a RIDDOR recently with our onsite Facilities Management company, they completed the RIDDOR as the employee worked for them and I received a copy for my records
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