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Smart or Deadly?

Post by Messy » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:46 am

Widow to challenge so-called Smart Motorways via Corporate Manslaughter attempt

I doubt whether this case will succeed but I share this poor lady's view that these roads are not safe (or smart)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... s-england/

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Re: Smart or Deadly?

Post by Alexis » Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:04 pm

Messy wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:46 am
Widow to challenge so-called Smart Motorways via Corporate Manslaughter attempt

I doubt whether this case will succeed but I share this poor lady's view that these roads are not safe (or smart)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... s-england/
Totally agree with you Messy.

I have often thought about such a scenario myself if travelling alone on a journey.

Good on this lady for highlighting this and I for one hope she is successful.
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Re: Smart or Deadly?

Post by bernicarey » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:09 pm

Here's a couple of links that don't require signing up to a subscription service:
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-ne ... -motorway/
https://www.transport-network.co.uk/Wid ... fety/16123

Two points leap out at me immediately:
Jason Mercer and Alexandru Murgeanu were hit by a lorry on the M1, having pulled over to exchange insurance details following a prang.
I'm sorry, but if it's as reported then Why would you do that!!!!!

But another factor seems to be this little gem:
Indeed, it’s reported that CCTV operators take an average of 20 minutes to spot stranded or stopped vehicles.
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Certainly going to be an interesting case.
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Re: Smart or Deadly?

Post by Andyblue » Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:22 pm

bernicarey wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:09 pm
Two points leap out at me immediately:
Jason Mercer and Alexandru Murgeanu were hit by a lorry on the M1, having pulled over to exchange insurance details following a prang.
I'm sorry, but if it's as reported then Why would you do that!!!!!
It's rather difficult NOT to stop if they'd had a collision, and safety is possibly one of the first issues. They will not know until they have stopped and assessed the damage, whether it is actually safe to continue to drive. Then the legal aspect of being required to stop - minor caveat on that, but would you trust the other driver to stop at the next services / safe place to give you their details?

With all the tech being fitted to motorways, perhaps motion sensing/ cameras / tech could help to make these roads less of a risk when used as a live lane. Lets not forget, a motorway could be seen as just a dual carriageway with an extra lane. The same if not similar risks apply on the dual sections. I can see the problem with an alternative live/closed hard shoulder is persuading drivers that they need to have raised awareness of the current status of that lane. A challenge that may be a step too far for some.
On a practical point, it is a challenge to allow more vehicles to travel more readily on the same amount of road space. We all like to keep the wheels turning and their are no easy answer.

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Re: Smart or Deadly?

Post by bernicarey » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:03 pm

Andyblue wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:22 pm
bernicarey wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:09 pm
Two points leap out at me immediately:
Jason Mercer and Alexandru Murgeanu were hit by a lorry on the M1, having pulled over to exchange insurance details following a prang.
I'm sorry, but if it's as reported then Why would you do that!!!!!
It's rather difficult NOT to stop if they'd had a collision, and safety is possibly one of the first issues.
As I caveated, 'if as reported' .
If a collision had forced me to stop, I'd be over the other side of the barrier before I did anything else.
Simple as that.
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