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Post by IanMachin » Fri May 11, 2018 8:24 pm

Hi all

It has actually been a while since I come to these forums, for those that saw my last post:
https://www.healthandsafetytips.co.uk/f ... 09#p348409

My manager leaves next Friday 18th May, I did not get his position which I applied for and currently in limbo waiting to see what will happen.

The last 3 months for me have been epic, I absolutely love my seconded role in HS&E and every day is something slightly different and very active.

Basically with a new manager coming in over me I am trying to discover where I do/will fit into the business and what my options are.
So in a nut shell, I am a trainer in Slinging and Lifting / Manual Handling and a H&S Coordinator seconded from a production operative role.

I have recently had a meeting with learning and development adviser at my works head office and discovered some potentially very interesting things.

The plan:
RTITB
IEMA
British Safety Council - IOSH Instructor (This I am not sure of the specifics, but what the LDM adviser told me is with my NEBOSH Certificate if I register with BSC I can teach IOSH in house)
NVQ Level 5 or NCRQ Level 6 (Not sure which route to take)

The route I wish to specialize in I am not 100% sure yet however on Monday I have a meeting booked with the General Manager to discuss all of this and see exactly what happens to me and my role.

Any advice you can give me for Monday is most welcome, in terms of how best communicate with higher management and and of the subcategories under "the plan".

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Post by Alexis » Sun May 13, 2018 11:02 am

Can anyone offer some assistance to Ian today (Sunday)?

Many thanks if you can. .salut
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Post by ddlh » Sun May 13, 2018 6:46 pm

Hi Ian

Sit tight my friend. Wait and see what the new manager does and what he can offer you.

The company are maybe unsure if you have the experience to carry the main role - I have been there before - and disappointing as it is - you always learn from a new person coming in.

The newbie is going to be dependent on you to learn the business so now is your time to shine and show your potential to them. Be positive and make sure your knowledge and experience shines through - if it doesnt work then ensure you have done your best.

My motto was always to ensure i never had to say "I wish I had done that"

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Post by Alexis » Sun May 13, 2018 8:45 pm

ddlh wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 6:46 pm
Hi Ian

Sit tight my friend. Wait and see what the new manager does and what he can offer you.

The company are maybe unsure if you have the experience to carry the main role - I have been there before - and disappointing as it is - you always learn from a new person coming in.

The newbie is going to be dependent on you to learn the business so now is your time to shine and show your potential to them. Be positive and make sure your knowledge and experience shines through - if it doesnt work then ensure you have done your best.

My motto was always to ensure i never had to say "I wish I had done that"

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Post by PaddyT » Mon May 14, 2018 7:52 am

Having had Dave as a supervisor previously I would always tend to take heed of any advice coming from him.

I would question the L&D adviser over the IOSH instructor statement. There is no requirement to be registered with BSC to deliver IOSH training.
From the IOSH website
All trainers who wish to deliver the training will need to be approved. You’ll be asked for details of their safety and health qualifications, training qualifications and experience on the application form. Trainer criteria differs from course to course, and is specifically to do with sector experience and level of IOSH membership. All members’ CPD must be in good standing.

All trainers of IOSH courses will need to have at least:

Technical membership of IOSH (a safety and health qualification is required)
an adult training qualification at level 3 (QCF), such as an Award in Education and Training
or
two years’ substantial, face-to-face, training delivery experience.

Some specialist courses, for example Environment for Business or Leading Safely, will have different requirements, specifically to do with sector experience and level of IOSH membership. E-learning training providers will need to have at least one Technical Member of IOSH.
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Re: Current Career

Post by IanMachin » Mon May 14, 2018 5:51 pm

ddlh wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 6:46 pm
Hi Ian

Sit tight my friend. Wait and see what the new manager does and what he can offer you.

The company are maybe unsure if you have the experience to carry the main role - I have been there before - and disappointing as it is - you always learn from a new person coming in.

The newbie is going to be dependent on you to learn the business so now is your time to shine and show your potential to them. Be positive and make sure your knowledge and experience shines through - if it doesnt work then ensure you have done your best.

My motto was always to ensure i never had to say "I wish I had done that"

Dave
Hi Dave, Thanks for your reply.

I have today had a sit down with my General Manager which actually went really well.

In a nut shell he has said wait until my new manager comes in and see what she has to offer me in terms of guidance etc, I now know my new manager is going to be a woman.

My GM has said first thing that will need to happen is for my new manager to come in get used to things then start thinking about me, which I am happy with to be honest. I spoke about NCRQ/NVQ Diploma and also a few training courses etc which he seemed all for.

He also mentioned my secondment becoming permanent which is something that will springboard my career putting me into a H&S Adviser position.

I look forward to this new manager coming in, fresh eyes to the business and hopefully help me make some much needed changes. Also she has a 3 month period until she can start so for 3 months I get to try and shine and hopefully make a name for myself.

Something my GM did say though is I need to think which path I need to go down as my 5 year goal is to become a HS&E manager, Trainer or HS&E.

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Re: Current Career

Post by IanMachin » Mon May 14, 2018 5:55 pm

PaddyT wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 7:52 am
Having had Dave as a supervisor previously I would always tend to take heed of any advice coming from him.

I would question the L&D adviser over the IOSH instructor statement. There is no requirement to be registered with BSC to deliver IOSH training.
From the IOSH website
All trainers who wish to deliver the training will need to be approved. You’ll be asked for details of their safety and health qualifications, training qualifications and experience on the application form. Trainer criteria differs from course to course, and is specifically to do with sector experience and level of IOSH membership. All members’ CPD must be in good standing.

All trainers of IOSH courses will need to have at least:

Technical membership of IOSH (a safety and health qualification is required)
an adult training qualification at level 3 (QCF), such as an Award in Education and Training
or
two years’ substantial, face-to-face, training delivery experience.

Some specialist courses, for example Environment for Business or Leading Safely, will have different requirements, specifically to do with sector experience and level of IOSH membership. E-learning training providers will need to have at least one Technical Member of IOSH.
Hope this is helpful

Paddy
Hi Paddy

I agree with your findings too, as I have done some research myself and cannot find what the L&D Adviser said specifically.

However he has come up trumps for me, my IEMA E-learning course should start this week :D

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Re: Current Career

Post by ddlh » Mon May 14, 2018 6:32 pm

Good luck Ian

Hope you are well Paddy T :)
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