Do you have do an ISO or BSI?
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Do you have do an ISO or BSI?
Simple question, do you have to subscribe to an ISO Standard or BSI (for example 5*) certification?
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Re: Do you have do an ISO or BSI?
Hi,
Would love to help but I don't understand the question?
You can purchase an ISO standard from BSI if you are a member or not, it just costs less if you are a member.
You can be a member of BSI, and/or you can be certified to certain standards through BSI (the 2 are not linked) but I don't recall you having to 'subscribe' to anything?
Not sure if that answers the question?
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Re: Do you have do an ISO or BSI?
Have to agree with Blackstone.
While the mantra of HSfB is "There is no such thing as a "stupid" or "daft" health and safety question!", the more background you can give to your question, the more likely it is you'll get an answer.
While the mantra of HSfB is "There is no such thing as a "stupid" or "daft" health and safety question!", the more background you can give to your question, the more likely it is you'll get an answer.
Are you speaking of 'subscribing' to an organisation in order to get access to it's documents/standards, or are you referring to gaining some sort of recognition that you are attaining a particular standard?
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Re: Do you have do an ISO or BSI?
9001/18001/14001 come in two different types.
The first type are accredited by UKAS and are suitable for the more higher risk operations (oil/gas/nuclear/aviation etc). The company that audits your organisation will have been checked by UKAS and this is quite an in depth process.
However some 9001/18001/14001 certificates do not have UKAS accreditation. They follow the chosen ISO but this is not backed up by UKAS; it will therefore not be suitable for high risk activities.
UKAS accreditation adds to the price so you will need to see whether it has any cost benefit to your organisation.
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The first type are accredited by UKAS and are suitable for the more higher risk operations (oil/gas/nuclear/aviation etc). The company that audits your organisation will have been checked by UKAS and this is quite an in depth process.
However some 9001/18001/14001 certificates do not have UKAS accreditation. They follow the chosen ISO but this is not backed up by UKAS; it will therefore not be suitable for high risk activities.
UKAS accreditation adds to the price so you will need to see whether it has any cost benefit to your organisation.
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Re: Do you have do an ISO or BSI?
Just a bit of an FYI
WHAT IS ISO
ISO originated from the union of two organisations – the ISO (International Federation of the National Standardizing Associations) and the UNSCC (United Nations Standard Coordinating Committee).
In 1946 over 25 countries met at the Institute of Civil Engineers in London to create a new international organisation, where the objective was to ‘facilitate the international coordination and unification of industrial standards’ From this the new organisation ISO began operations in February 1947. The word ISO is derived from the Greek ISOS meaning ‘equal’.
As the International Organization for Standardization would translate differently across different languages it was decided that the short form name for the organisation would be ISO.
ISO standard; developed by International Organization for Standardization - as says on the tin these are international standards and have been agreed by a global community of professionals.
BS Standard - British Standards that have only been agreed to be a standard by the British.
BSI are the British Standards Institution who are a business standards company & also by royal charter the UK National Standards Body.
So to answer your question which i assume is around ISO 14001 & ISO 18001.... no you don't have to subscribe to either; and if you do that standard doesn't have to be certified by BSI - you can use other companies. However, you may wish to develop an environmental system around 14001 so that you know you're system covers the parts it is intended to.
I for example may use the BS OHSAS 18001 standard (notice it's not agreed internationally so it's not an ISO) and treat it as a framework for my management system, but may never get my system accreditted to the standard so i could never display the badge.
WHAT IS ISO
ISO originated from the union of two organisations – the ISO (International Federation of the National Standardizing Associations) and the UNSCC (United Nations Standard Coordinating Committee).
In 1946 over 25 countries met at the Institute of Civil Engineers in London to create a new international organisation, where the objective was to ‘facilitate the international coordination and unification of industrial standards’ From this the new organisation ISO began operations in February 1947. The word ISO is derived from the Greek ISOS meaning ‘equal’.
As the International Organization for Standardization would translate differently across different languages it was decided that the short form name for the organisation would be ISO.
ISO standard; developed by International Organization for Standardization - as says on the tin these are international standards and have been agreed by a global community of professionals.
BS Standard - British Standards that have only been agreed to be a standard by the British.
BSI are the British Standards Institution who are a business standards company & also by royal charter the UK National Standards Body.
So to answer your question which i assume is around ISO 14001 & ISO 18001.... no you don't have to subscribe to either; and if you do that standard doesn't have to be certified by BSI - you can use other companies. However, you may wish to develop an environmental system around 14001 so that you know you're system covers the parts it is intended to.
I for example may use the BS OHSAS 18001 standard (notice it's not agreed internationally so it's not an ISO) and treat it as a framework for my management system, but may never get my system accreditted to the standard so i could never display the badge.