Preventing Public Access to Workplace Yards etc
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Preventing Public Access to Workplace Yards etc
Hi all,
I am searching the internet to try and find a prosecution for failure to secure a workplace site to prevent public access, can anyone point me in any direction for some anything?
Thanks in advance
I am searching the internet to try and find a prosecution for failure to secure a workplace site to prevent public access, can anyone point me in any direction for some anything?
Thanks in advance
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Something in the dim and distant dusty corners of my mind says Sainsbury's?
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Well the classic case law is British Railways Board v Herrington 1972 - Occupiers' Liability
http://www.e-lawresources.co.uk/British ... ington.php
http://www.e-lawresources.co.uk/British ... ington.php
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We have a public right of way right along the edge of our yard...
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And if you have concerns, you are at liberty to fence it off to keep the people to the footpath only, such as some farmers do with their fields.
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To be honest it doesn't really bother me just now, in the year we've been on this site I've never seen anyone use it. We are looking at putting in an alternative route that goes round behind one of the buildings, avoiding the yard completely. My thinking is that people will naturally follow the path of least resistance anyway.
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Not sure if these links will be of any use/interest?
https://www.icaew.com/en/archive/librar ... oreseeable
https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/home ... 69.article
https://www.icaew.com/en/archive/librar ... oreseeable
https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/home ... 69.article
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Re: Preventing Public Access to Workplace Yards etc
If it's actually a Public Footpath/Right of Way, you will need to get a deviation approved by the Local Authority Highways Dept. In England, that's the County or City Council usually.toecutter wrote: ↑Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:41 am To be honest it doesn't really bother me just now, in the year we've been on this site I've never seen anyone use it. We are looking at putting in an alternative route that goes round behind one of the buildings, avoiding the yard completely. My thinking is that people will naturally follow the path of least resistance anyway.
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We're hoping to avoid all that (it's a Scottish Natural Heritage footpath) by putting in the new path, which is an easier route, and just leaving the old one to fall out of use naturally rather than technically closing it off. Still looking into it, there's a heating oil tank for an accommodation unit that'd need to be moved and a few other considerations. The path doesn't get a great deal of use so might not be worth it...bernicarey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:15 pmIf it's actually a Public Footpath/Right of Way, you will need to get a deviation approved by the Local Authority Highways Dept. In England, that's the County or City Council usually.toecutter wrote: ↑Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:41 am To be honest it doesn't really bother me just now, in the year we've been on this site I've never seen anyone use it. We are looking at putting in an alternative route that goes round behind one of the buildings, avoiding the yard completely. My thinking is that people will naturally follow the path of least resistance anyway.
Sorry for the thread hijack, Safety!
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Yeah, right!toecutter wrote: ↑Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:37 pm
We're hoping to avoid all that (it's a Scottish Natural Heritage footpath) by putting in the new path, which is an easier route, and just leaving the old one to fall out of use naturally rather than technically closing it off. Still looking into it, there's a heating oil tank for an accommodation unit that'd need to be moved and a few other considerations. The path doesn't get a great deal of use so might not be worth it...
Sorry for the thread hijack, Safety!
Not 100% sure where you stand with that in Scotland, but I think you'll find that under Highways Act 1980 the local authority can order you to maintain the path as shown on the official maps that they control, and take legal action against you if necessary.
I suggest you become familiar with relevant parts of the Highways Act 1980 (you'll note I haven't said which they are because it's a huge document!! )
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Yeah, the legislation's quite a minefield, but what I mean is that we'll give the walkers an easier and safer path without changing the original "official" right of way at all. The option will still be there to use the original route, it's just that they'll have the option of going along the side of a field instead of a grubby yard.
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You dont watch youtube videos do you? The millisecond you take away their access some jobless wonder will turn up with his camera demanding to walk through.toecutter wrote: ↑Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:41 am To be honest it doesn't really bother me just now, in the year we've been on this site I've never seen anyone use it. We are looking at putting in an alternative route that goes round behind one of the buildings, avoiding the yard completely. My thinking is that people will naturally follow the path of least resistance anyway.